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Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:21 pm
by curtis.johnson
In the process of creating my new race, I came across a problem -- No DDS File viewer! Anyone know any method of seeing these?

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:33 pm
by curtis.johnson
Another thing; I have the files for a new ship in what appears to be the correct place, but they're not showing up in the hull editor for some reason. I have the ship's image files here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gratuitous Space Battles\Slyth Empire\data\bitmaps\ships\Slyth Empire\Nucleus Dreadnought
The hull files here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gratuitous Space Battles\Slyth Empire\data\hulls\Slyth

Any ideas? If necessary I can post what's on the files themselves.

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:31 pm
by AcePalarum
curtis.johnson wrote:In the process of creating my new race, I came across a problem -- No DDS File viewer! Anyone know any method of seeing these?


I recommend Paint.NET. It's free software that can open .dds files and is a very useful image editor just in general.

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:45 pm
by dafrandle
alternatively if you have gimp 2

a single google search will get you a dds extension for the program



side note, if you eventually want to make stuff (new races) for gsb2

in the current state, to get all the files you need you will probably have to 3d model
get google sketchup for that and then get this
http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/clf-normal-map-maker


also who turns of the url bbcode? why would you do that?

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:15 pm
by curtis.johnson
AcePalarum wrote:
curtis.johnson wrote:In the process of creating my new race, I came across a problem -- No DDS File viewer! Anyone know any method of seeing these?


I recommend Paint.NET. It's free software that can open .dds files and is a very useful image editor just in general.


Okay, I'll take a look. Thanks! also, any advice on my hull problems?

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:17 pm
by curtis.johnson
dafrandle wrote:alternatively if you have gimp 2

a single google search will get you a dds extension for the program



side note, if you eventually want to make stuff (new races) for gsb2

in the current state, to get all the files you need you will probably have to 3d model
get google sketchup for that and then get this
http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/clf-normal-map-maker


also who turns of the url bbcode? why would you do that?


I did see Gimp, but for some reason I can't download the dds plugin. Ah well.

I don't see what you mean about turning off url bbcode? :/

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:17 pm
by curtis.johnson
curtis.johnson wrote:
AcePalarum wrote:
curtis.johnson wrote:In the process of creating my new race, I came across a problem -- No DDS File viewer! Anyone know any method of seeing these?


I recommend Paint.NET. It's free software that can open .dds files and is a very useful image editor just in general.


Okay, I'll take a look. Thanks! also, any advice on my hull problems?


NEVERMIND! I was stupid and made perhaps the biggest newbie fail ever in the history of newbies. I forgot the install file


*Multiple earthquake inducing facepalms ensue*

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:44 pm
by curtis.johnson
Alas, a new problem has arrived. DDS images make the black transparent (I think -- already tried white), and having turned black the parts I want transparent, I open it in the hull editor. The black is not transparent. DAMMIT DDS FILES THAT I HAVE LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH, WHY ARE YOU SO CONFUSING D:<

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:41 am
by Archduke Astro
The game developer likes .dds format because of the small filesizes it can generate. But for modding purposes, it's often a big pain in the neck for noobs to make use of this format, and that relative barrier to entry has long concerned me. [-sigh-]

There's very likely other freeware (or even paid shareware) editors out there for getting started with your intended .dds sprites. You should consider searching for some, testing them for their user-friendliness, and then making further use of them only after you've read all of the instructions needed to become familiar with them. If you're new to this, do yourself a favor and don't expect to master it all at once -- quality takes time.

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:35 pm
by dafrandle
curtis.johnson wrote:Alas, a new problem has arrived. DDS images make the black transparent (I think -- already tried white), and having turned black the parts I want transparent, I open it in the hull editor. The black is not transparent. DAMMIT DDS FILES THAT I HAVE LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH, WHY ARE YOU SO CONFUSING D:<


when i did it i just made the transparent parts transparent
pop over here for a sec,
http://positech.co.uk/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7603
and scroll to the bottom that ship i made all the transparent part are transparent in the dds, btw some pictures would really help if you have problms

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:25 pm
by curtis.johnson
dafrandle wrote:
curtis.johnson wrote:Alas, a new problem has arrived. DDS images make the black transparent (I think -- already tried white), and having turned black the parts I want transparent, I open it in the hull editor. The black is not transparent. DAMMIT DDS FILES THAT I HAVE LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH, WHY ARE YOU SO CONFUSING D:<


when i did it i just made the transparent parts transparent
pop over here for a sec,
http://positech.co.uk/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7603
and scroll to the bottom that ship i made all the transparent part are transparent in the dds, btw some pictures would really help if you have problms


Okay, thanks. :D

EDIT: I still have the same problem. The transparent bits are turned to RGB 0, 0, 0 but it still just shows like a the ship is on a black square D:

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:13 am
by dafrandle
thats not transparent thats black, you have to change the opacity to 0

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:18 pm
by curtis.johnson
dafrandle wrote:thats not transparent thats black, you have to change the opacity to 0


Aha! That was the problem. I heard somewhere that in .dds files, rgb 0, 0, 0 was turned invisible. Thanks!

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:48 pm
by AcePalarum
Worth noting is that .dds files for effects in GSB turn black transparent, but not the .dds hulls.

Re: Viewing DDS Files

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:20 pm
by curtis.johnson
AcePalarum wrote:Worth noting is that .dds files for effects in GSB turn black transparent, but not the .dds hulls.


Thanks for the confirmation ^_^